User talk:Tahngarthor

This is why they keep us around, isn't it Tahn? --Lordshadow 20:10, March 22, 2010 (UTC) (Also, is vanachat down?)

Per your comment. If you could check Pankration that would be helpful. Thanks. --GAHOO t/ c 16:26, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Done- No known snoll can be used in Pankration, while any bomb can. If they were both considered part of the same category, they would both be useable. Tahngarthor 17:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment in the discussion of my guide. I have made a pretty large overhaul of the article, including some new sections, and I believe that it is much clearer now. Feel free to let me know what you think!Resheph 09:16, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I see you replaced 'level' with 'main job level' on the warrior support page. That's a good idea, thanks. --Volkai 14:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Please remove that giant substituted template from your signature. Thanks. --User:Charitwo/Sig 03:29, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

? I dont recall making anything like that.... wonder how it got that way. lemme see what I can do. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 04:22, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. You need to add a ]] after the pipeline in [[User:Tahngarthor| btw. --User:Charitwo/Sig 05:10, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm wondering why you reverted my edits to the FoV page. I don't see what's wrong with my modifications: (1) it is proper to link to the Field Manual page here when talking about them; (2) the manuals aren't always next to outposts; (3) 'exact' shouldn't be capitalised as it doesn't begin a new sentence; and (4) what's wrong with actually linking to the chart being referenced?--Anthoron T/ C 11:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't see the point to linking to a page that is nothing but a data source which is transcluding information onto the FoV page. The manual locations are listed in the table and the text now specifies " (Exact locations are shown in the table below.)" Also, you can have entire sentences in parentheses so captializing exact is acceptable. The link is redundant. If it were a reference to an off site source, it would be appropriate. But identical content within the same site is redundant. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 13:39, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Capitalising 'exact' would be acceptable if it was the entire sentence, but the period to end the preceding sentence doesn't appear until after the parentheses. The link isn't "identical content", it's a shortcut to the table. Should the TOC be removed too for the same reason?--Anthoron T/ C 21:30, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

• It's a "shortcut" to identical content. For the umpteenth time, the two pages say exactly the same thing, except one has a couple additional sentences of text. I don't understand the resistance here. Usually the wiki frowns upon redundancy and other unnecessary stuff. Correct grammar all you want, nobody's perfect. but I maintain the FM page in its current form is unnecessary. I'd be more inclined to support the page and the transclusion of it if it were going to be used on multiple pages, but as it is now I don't see that happening due to the nature of it- the table is useful on this page and this page only. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 23:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

This isn't a discussion about the Field Manual page, it's about the FoV page; and while the FM page still exists in its current state, the wiki should be edited as such (and not with the assumption that it's going to disappear). If the FM page is removed/merged/whatever, then the FoV page can be updated to reflect that.--Anthoron T/ C 01:17, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

It still makes no sense to link to it, whether it dissapears or not- in its current state, the Field Manual page is little more than a chart template (filled in with content) and it does not help anyone to link there from the FoV page. If something isn't helpful, it shouldn't be done. And linking from FoV to the FM page is not helpful to anyone. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 01:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Tahngarthor/tahn-bubble

I like this concept alot, it really seems to highlight ur additions to talk pages, mind if i borrow or play around w/ the source? Milotheshort 23:15, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

p.s. i already have the source duplicated, just wanted to make sure you were cool about me trying to implment/alter it on my page, some ppl are touchy about pet projects like this lol thx in advance Milotheshort 23:17, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Please don't use this, I'll only be using it in certain cases and I've been informed that this template of a template concept can be problematic if overused. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 06:32, November 2, 2009 (UTC)

Were you using Maze Rune 102 (Trial by Numbers)? The Blitz is only locked if that rune is set (or so another editor claims; I have yet to try it out myself). If you used 102 and had Chaperix use a Blitz without completing that quest, then that part of the page will need some more revising. ~ Karuberu 23:19, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

The links you reverted (back in November - I didn't have it watchlisted) were there because there are pages for song types as well as for individual songs. Now the template no longer has links to the song-type pages Elegy Lullaby Mazurka March Prelude Mambo Madrigal Pastoral or Operetta. --Volkai 20:08, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

1) the wohle point of the template is to link to the spells themselves; 2) anything you really need to know about the song type can be found on the spell pages (e.g. the effects of the spell), and 3) The way the links were set up, it was very easy to click the wrong link since it isn't immediately obvious that the two words link to different pages. It should remain as it is. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 00:49, January 31, 2010 (UTC)

Please take a look at http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Category:Abyssea#Weakness_Targeting for the information you wanted on the weaknesses, it is suggested that finding the mobs weakness will help drop rates. To know you found the weakness !! will appear over the mobs head. --Icari 10:48, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

If triggering these things is not proven to *make* it drop, then drop rate is still necessary. Putting that icon next to the key item drop may be misleading. Tahngarthor 17:05, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

• Hey there! Can i ask you why Gatherer of Light (I) locked is? --Ayrtonia 17:48, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

• want to put a link to the german wikipage pls --Ayrtonia 11:12, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

• or if it is possible that you could share it [ [de:Das kataklystische Lied - Teil 1] ] tyvm --Ayrtonia 11:18, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks and have a nice week! --Ayrtonia 23:21, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

• I'd like to connect the Gatherer of Light (I) to it's game script:Gatherer of Light (I)/Plot Details, via a spoiler3 tag like all the other missions in this storyline, but the page is locked.Kaycia 08:24, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

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TALK - 16:45, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

I changed the spoiler tag to {{spoiler2}}- This is the one that links to a /Plot Details subpage.

You are welcome --Icari 18:29, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

I've been doing a lot of page editing for consistency in both format and convention. I've also been cleaning up various categories. In the process, I've run into many pages that are named incorrectly. I've been adding Move, SMove, Delete and SDelete as needed. However, the creator of one page removed one. In order to avoid an edit war, I'm contacting you.

Trail 2083 is incorrectly named. I was originally going to add a Move, but Trial 2083 already exists. So, I added a SDelete instead. Today, the creator removed it. Can you please take a look at it? Also, when you have time, please look at the various maintenance categories.

Thank you! --₪ ABBYDON ₪ t/ c 16:34, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for taking care of that page. Unfortunately, the person just added it back again. --₪ ABBYDON ₪ t/ c 17:48, December 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I noticed that you reverted my edit on the The Wyrm God page with the comment "Do not capitalize all words in a key item name", for the Crimson Traverser Stone key item. However, all key items are capitalized that way (or at least, they should...), just like all the other articles. The naming conventions say : "Articles names should use proper capitalization, like that of a book title, this includes redirects. Example: Arnold The Bear is incorrect; it should be Arnold the Bear". So I changed the The Wyrm God article again, to follow those naming conventions, and to avoid having someone create the article with improper capitalization... --Soily 16:52, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Your change has been reverted, please do not change it back. I placed an explanation on your talk page. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 21:02, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, sorry, but I don't agree with you on that. There are naming conventions, and as far as I know, they are to be followed for all articles. Capitalization "like book titles" is one of the conventions (see the link I gave above). As I quoted above from the conventions : "Articles names should use proper capitalization, like that of a book title". Clear and simple.

You said : "Where possible, all items and key items should be named the way they appear in the game". That's not true, as all items appear in the inventory (cf the picture on any random item such as Orcish Axe) without special capitalization, but the articles have their words capitalized. The reason for that, I guess, is that capitalized titles look prettier than uncapitalized titles, and that is as true for Key Items as it is for any other article. --Soily 21:40, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

This was decided on quite some time ago, and one of my first duties as a patroller was changing all key items to mirror their actual ingame names. I do not know of any normal item with more than one word that doesn't have all of those words capitalzied in the *item list* (The item list trumps the help text for the tiem). It will remain as it is and I will make sure the policy reflects it. Item pages are not really articles. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 21:50, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

• Note the example given under Items on the policy itself. The help text says "Royal Squire's halberd" but the item list says "Ryl. Sqr. Halberd". The article name matches the item list name, with the abbriviations expanded. Take a look at any key item. Both in the key item list and in the help text, words other than the first are not capitalized unless they are proper nouns. All such key item pages were changed a long time ago to match this. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 21:53, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Crap, I put a broken link (typo) in my comments editing the Shinryu page. Is this possible to fix?

Oh, and I think someone might be sockpuppeting the Brisk Mask page. Can you comment on formatting?--Ahkvan 02:08, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

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TALK - 02:12, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

If you make a typo, just edit again to correct the mistake. I don't see anything obviously wrong, maybe someone else already corrected it? I will take a look at the user issue you posted. (edit) I do not see any evidence to suggest any sockpuppeting is taking place. Can you explain your concern more clearly?

In regards to Shinryu I mean the Summary section I mistyped The Wyrm God and confused it with The Wyrmking Descends. You can see the red "edit new page" for "The Wyrm King" text on Shinryu's edit history page. On Brisk Mask I keep seeing people remove the deliberate line-break in the middle of job listings despite my repeated attempts to keep it there as identical formatting to the image. Is this not the intent? --Ahkvan 11:02, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

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TALK - 18:21, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm going to have to go with the other guys here. We don't need to achieve a character-for-character direct clone of the help text's layout. Besides that, the way you had it set up resulted in the job list taking up 3 lines. As a side note, under the default skin, the job list breaks at the same point it does in the picture (And if it looks fine on the default skin, that's great). I really don't think anyone was intentionally undermining you. I myself removed the break because it was causing the last 3 jobs to drop down to a third line under the default skin.

• Please review the discussion comments on referenced article --Endlesspath 12:44, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

• Fact of the matter regarding this section, in regards to my continual efforts to enhance references to the Category:Empyrean Armor-By Area/NM is that is a significantly useful section, imo quite relevant to the Category:Abyssea page. Honestly, your editing would have been better served by taking if anything the [1] and [2] segments, off-branching them with a very short summary on the main page - these in no way shape or form need to be covered in such detail on the main Abyssea page.--Endlesspath 08:54, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

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TALK - 09:32, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

I fail to see how your repeated bolding or italicizing of one line of text in that section constitutes an improvement. The TWO links in the span of a small paragraph sized bit of text are quite clearly visible and any normal person who jumped down to that part of the page would see them and click them. It comes across as almost obnoxious. If you have thoughts on actually improving parts of the article, then by all means go and do them. I am reluctant to work on it myself because people are mostly happy with the bulk of information being in one place (when I voted no, I was aiming for improving the article, rather than purely cutting it into pieces). I already had placed comments in one area of the page to nudge editors into finding a way to make a lengthy part of the page more concise. If you want to make some of the long text blocks on that page more concise, please do. The only thing I have an issue with is the pointless edits to the Seals section.

• • The problem is this: I voted no change, and the general summary was for no change, yet contrary to what you said immediately above - you changed the page (moving the af3 seal area/nm charts from the Category:Abyssea to Category:Empyrean Armor). So what is it, put it back the way it was before you made your change - or admit you changed something contrary to the majorities view?--Endlesspath 01:09, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

The article still needs changes and improvements if it is possible to improve the article. The discussion was about whether or not the page should be split into distinct articles instead of being one page. Even without splitting the article, certain peices of information can be summarized or made more concise, or specific things moved (in this case, one thing was moved to another page that already exists because it seeemed like a better home for it.). Also remember: Wikis are not a democracy. Polls and surveys are not binding. If people really think it's such a serious problem, they will make changes to it. The edits you made I that I changed back were only done because they did not improve the article in any way. I'm certainly not going to do something like lock the page or otherwise prevent changes just because someone said "my vote: no change to this article." If something can be inproved, it should be. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 01:31, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

During editing my personal userpage, I have come into a problem concerning drop boxes and checklists. I can't seem to get my Missions drop boxes to show the information that I have put into them. Could you please assist with this as it has been bothering me for a while now Sexdrivenmonkey 02:31, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

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TALK - 04:13, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

The various checklist templates were created by various users of the wiki- I had no hand in their creation, so the help I can provide with them is somewhat limited. If you found these on another user's page and copied them, you may want to ask for their input. As for the navboxes, the most common issue is forgetting a curly bracket or pipe symbol (" | ") somewhere. Also, for the most part, any template will work normally within the boxes, but sometimes they conflict and don't work the way that is expected. I'll take a look soon and see if I can help you find the trouble spot.

I'm thinking of creating both Voidwatch for reference and explanation, and [[Category:Voidwatch]] for pages related to this new battle system. There is already a [[Category:Voidwatch Notorious Monsters]] category.

If something needs a category, the information on it should be on the category page, not a seperate page. Use Category:Voidwatch. And please be sure to visit our new site as announced and share what you know there. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 16:02, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Is there a policy against external linking to the wikipedia in the Historical sections of articles? For example, putting a link on Sobek to Sobek? Do we support Interwiki Shortlinks?

Feel free to link to wikipedia- but as far as I can tell, you need to use the URL and description in single brackets. Wikia doesn't seem to support wp:pagename. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 17:54, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

I did a test, and [[wikipedia:Sobek]] wikipedia:Sobek seems to work on my user page. --SimuAndy 19:11, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

The alias wp doesn't seem to be present, though. It's not there by default it seems, as wp: doesn't work on our new site, either ( gamerescape.com - and I encourage you to visit there, as it is indended to replace this site where we have less control over site funcitonality ) but Wikipedia: seems to work by default. Tahngarthor^{talk-contribs} 20:07, May 21, 2011 (UTC)